THE STAR Wednesday July 18, 2007
Speaker warned against using ‘menceceh’
MALACCA: Speaker Datuk Wira Mo’min Abdul Aziz was told not to use the word menceceh (chatter aimlessly) or a police report would be lodged against him for sexual harassment.
Betty Chew (DAP – Kota Laksamana) was about to ask a question on the issue of parking lots when Abdul Ghafar Atan (BN – Gadek) tried to cut in at the state assembly yesterday.
When Chew argued that Mo’min had agreed to let her speak first, the latter told her to go ahead and make it fast, and not “menceceh”.
At this point, Chew told Mo’min to be careful when using such a word on women as it could be deemed a degrading term for the female gender.
“Please be careful when using such a word as that can be considered sexual harassment and I can lodge a police report on that,” she said.
Full Article: http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/7/18/nation/18335374&sec=nation
Sexual harassment???
"Menceceh" is a degrading term for the female gender??
WTF??
So if Dato' Wira Mo'min had said that to a MAN, it wouldn't be degrading but to a WOMAN, it is...
Why why tell me WHY?
According to the Kamus Dewan Edisi Tiga:-
ceceh II; menceceh (cécéh)= bercakap kosong (bkn perkara yg bukan-bukan dll), merepek, mericau a.k.a "talking too much about nothing"
Therefore, anyone who accuses a woman of 'bercakap merepek' can also be sued for sexual harassment lah ya?
Since when are those terms considered an insult to the female gender?
Since when are those terms incorporated into the category of "verbal sexual harassment" like asking for sexual favours, obscene name-calling etc?
MENCECEH was never isolated to be an insult to women.
So... I'm thinking that:-
a) this lady is making 'menceceh' a 'gender' issue because she herself has the opinion that women are associated with 'talking too much about nothing'.
b) she is extra sensitive and defensive because she knows SHE is perfectly capable of 'talking too much about nothing'.
c) she's one of those 'fanatic feminists' whom I find greatly annoying; those who jump and bleat at every single imagined insult or discrimination.
It's ironic that women are expected to be 'sensitive' to the word 'menceceh'... since it was initially popularised by the late P.Ramlee in his movie "Bujang Lapuk", about three unmarried MEN.
"OWHH!
Menceceh, menceceh, menceceh, menceceh MENCECEH...
Bujang lapuk... loyar buruk
Sana sini hai bikin sibuk
Naik basikal semacam beruk
Tak ada kerja tolak habuk"
(MENCECEH BUJANG LAPUK) by P.RAMLEE
Wednesday, July 18, 2007
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in that case, we can't use membebel for women jugak la
nanti kena repot polis
and mengumpat?
how bout merengek?
ok la... meleceh melecet menggelebeh dan meleleh...
oh menceceh
oh menceceh
oh menceceh
i like to menceceh in my blog. menceceh about everything. eh, you! (point at an MP peeping here in Maverix's blog) got any problem with me menceceh about how all MPs menceceh? haven't you got unity issue to settle?
You know that thing where you don't know if you want to laugh or cry?
Yeah.
Sometimes women confuse me. Since when did little things because associated with various harrassments? If she is so feminist then why doesn't she fight it out herself instead of resorting to reporting/calling police/taking it to court.
Oh wait, that's right. That brand of feminism is 'getting everyone else to feel bad on your behalf so you don't have to do anything'.
So much for, 'I'm a woman, I can take this on myself, thank you.'
*weeps*
it is interesting that this gender issue was highlighted and squashed away by a bright lady, not by some kind of intellectual man out there. bravo mave! ;-)
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i think there's a second meaning to "menceceh"-- doesn't it imply promiscuosity on the part of a woman (in malay anyway la)? a woman who is menceceh is like... a female who is accessible to anyone anywhere in "that" sense; sort of like loose-- which is why "menceceh" in the bujang lapuk song is supposed to be... funny because it implies the men are old bachelors who nonetheless still got it in them to (at least) menceceh i.e. to be loose.
and where did you get this "second meaning" of yours?
ntah hapa2 ntah
menceceh is so womanly i must say.. but it has got nothing to do with sexism..
the thing with this politician.. pandai je buat issue.. takde keje carik keje.. ;)
menggoda?
can i use that? can i get sued for using that word?
because most of the girl i'm dealing always menggoda.
susah la like this.. how to tell them?
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